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Navigating the Taboo: Conversations on Women’s Sexual Health with Winx Health Founders Jamie Norwood and Cynthia Plotch

Jacquelynn Cotten Episode 103

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Are you ready to take control of your women’s health and break the silence around sexual wellness?

In this powerful episode, Jacquelynn Cotten dives deep into the real conversations we should be having about reproductive health, sexual wellness, and the myths that keep women in the dark.

Joining us are Jamie Norwood and Cynthia Plotch from Winx Health, a company dedicated to making women’s health products and information more accessible, accurate, and stigma-free. They share their journey of challenging outdated beliefs, fighting misinformation, and helping women take charge of their sexual wellness.

💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

✔️ The biggest myths about women’s health—and the truth behind them
✔️ How misinformation on social media (especially TikTok) is harming and helping women’s reproductive health
✔️ Why reclaiming sexual wellness is essential for confidence and empowerment
✔️ Where to find women’s health products that actually support your body

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Speaker 1:

I think also like because people are searching on TikTok and YouTube and because those are like for-profit media companies that sell products, like you know, gen Z, 85% of Gen Z. I think it is like searches for their answers to their questions on TikTok and therefore like learns about new products I get so many TikTok ads for, like a gummy that is supposed to make your vagina smell like pineapple. What the fuck, straight up, like it's a pineapple gummy and it's like all these girls being like my boyfriend can't get enough of my vagina. He says it tastes like pineapple and I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Just Women Talking Shit with your host, Jacqueline Cotton. Jacqueline Cotton.

Speaker 3:

Well, hey, ladies, how are you? I'm doing super well. How are y'all Doing great? Excited to be here? Good, I'm really excited, really excited. I can't wait to hear all the things, okay, especially when it comes to sex health. I'm very interested in that. I'm in my dirty 30s, okay, so Is that a thing that people say?

Speaker 2:

Did you not know that? What Cause same?

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, yeah, apparently that's a thing and I didn't know it was a thing. Is Elise going to be talking at all? No, okay, she's just, she's just hanging out, cool. No, okay, she's just, she's just hanging out, cool, all right. Well, um, I just go, I went ahead and hit record. I'm very just candid with my interviews. I don't know if y'all have had the chance to listen to anything yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, okay. And then, um, so there's, there's no seriously, there's no like formal questions. It's just going to be super natural.

Speaker 3:

We'll see where conversation takes us, right, and I kind of just want to get to know about your company, about, like, how it started and everything, and about you all and your stories and how you got here, and just like I think about it is if we were just sitting down having some tea or some coffee and we're getting to know each other like a little friend, bumble, date or something, and I asked like, oh my god, tell me all about you. That's how it's gonna be. So amazing, no pressure, no pressure at all. But if we could, now that I have, um, just talked and talked already, if you could tell me your names and then a little bit about, like this company.

Speaker 3:

It's Winx, right, winx held, okay, um, and just how, how we kind of got here. I know that you shifted, it was a different company name, right, um. And just a little bit about you, like, how did this all come together? Because it it typically just starts as like this I got an idea and then you either execute or you don't, and bam y, y'all executed. So I can't wait to hear about it. Whoever wants to go first?

Speaker 1:

Oh sure, I'll kick off. Yeah, so Cynthia and I started working together in 2019. We had been colleagues Well, we actually started working together way earlier, in 2015, but we started working on the business that is today, winx, in 2019. We were co-workers at the time and we were at a startup and the founders were two men in their twenties. Like you know, we were all around the same age and it was a very 10 or dude bros, depending on how you want to call them.

Speaker 1:

I would say yeah yeah, we were like all at the time working at this company, like 23 through 27. Like you know, there are under 10 of us and Cynthia and I became like work besties and we would often talk about starting something of ourselves. You know, we were like if they can do it, we can probably do it too. Um, and Cynthia was. We were always interested in women's health Like we just love talking about, like women's health and sexual health and sex ed and like all that stuff as friends.

Speaker 1:

Um, and one day Cynthia was buying a pregnancy test with the drug store and she ran into her ex-boyfriend's mom which she can elaborate on. But basically she called me and we were like we're just ranting and raving about how we both have had really bad experiences buying these products. Not just, like you know, the experience of walking down the aisle and picking up the products, but like taking them was confusing, the pricing was confusing, we never knew what was going on with our vaginal health or sexual health. So basically like that kind of snowballed into where we are today.

Speaker 2:

It's been six years, which is insane to think about. It hurts my brain sometimes to say that number, but it's been so cool how much the brand has evolved as we've learned a ton from our community and our customers. Like we started with a pregnancy test and now you know Jamie keeps saying sexual and sexual, vaginal and reproductive health. We have this big focus and big dreams and it's been amazing.

Speaker 3:

My hands are cold so it takes me a second to tap the screen and be able to feel what I'm doing. Okay, so that is super cool and the whole. I mean that I guess I've never really stopped and thought about that. So I'm in the Bible Belt, because you couldn't tell by this ridiculous accent.

Speaker 2:

It's adorable. I don't know what you're talking about. It's amazing.

Speaker 3:

But, like, sex has always been super, super, fucking taboo. Like, yeah, just for a little story, okay, just to show how taboo it is. Um, I remember, and this is actually pretty terrible, but thinking about the shame and the trauma and like the whole experience of something so natural, this is literally how we all fucking got here. Y'all Like, why are we so? Why are people so weird about it? But I lost my virginity at 15 and I trusted my mom with that information because she had a shit ton of kids and I was like, okay, I really don't want to wind up like her, like I want to plan this shit out right. And I remember telling her and I was like, so I felt like I had become a woman, you know. And she always told me tell me when you do that we want to make sure that, like you know, you're protected and doing it right. And I did. And the next thing, I knew y'all, I'm not even shitting you sermon at church guess what it was about? Abstinence of abstinence, uh, burning in hell, the fiery pits of hell, sex before marriage, all the fucking things. This sounds made up. No, this sounds like some shit out of a movie. No, no, that that happened and I remember feeling the shame and the weight of the whole congregation on me and so like down South, like whether it's Southern Baptist, pentecostal, whatever, like a thing that they do, and I don't identify with the church anymore. But the thing that they do is they like at the end of the sermon or if you're feeling led or you've got sins you need to repent for, you go to the altar right. And here's the thing is, like I'm telling you, these people love the attention of like talking in tongues and stuff like that, not trying to. This is my personal experience. What I mean by that is like everybody was at the altar on Sundays, but not that Sunday. Everybody waited for me to go and it was the most oh my God, talk about shame.

Speaker 3:

So when I talk, when I talk now about like I'm in my dirty 30s and I'm owning it, it's because I didn't like start even enjoying sex or talking about sex or even know what to do about sex. Until I was in my 30s, until I started seeking answers and having interviews with people like you, I didn't even know like what the like, like what the actual vagina is Like. I didn't know all the parts, the labia, I didn't know any of that. So when I'm like talking about my vag, I'm thinking it's like the whole, like yeah, it's just, it's just that's what it is, but like there are parts of it. So this is super cool and I'd like I asked the backstory, because it usually is something like that was a personal experience. So I'm curious like how did that? How did that feel, cynthia? Were you like humiliated? Were you like what were the feelings and things going through your head?

Speaker 2:

Well, okay, before I answer that, I just want to say that like I'm so sorry that you had that experience and that sounds so traumatizing. Thank you so much. And like to your point about it being like it's both so personal and also so universal, like our experiences around our bodies and sex, right, like everyone's body is different and everyone's life and childhood is different. But like also, everybody has sex and we all got here, most likely, more likely than not, because of sex, or at least sex was some bit a part of it, right. And so like, yeah, the shame around it is awful, but anyway, my experience yeah, I mean it was it was awful.

Speaker 2:

I cried Right, like that's the quickest way to sum it up it was awful. We were I was still with the ex at the time and his mom was excited, so it could have been worse. But I mean I literally like ran out of the store like I handled it Definitely not maturely and definitely not responsibly. Like ran out of the store Like I handled it definitely not maturely and definitely not responsibly. And I still get embarrassed when I talk about it and it's so interesting. Like Jamie, I don't even know if you have this experience, but starting this business has totally changed, not just the way I talk about sex or my body with friends, but the conversations my family has around things too. Like it's been really fascinating, like how much just doing this work has totally changed, like the way that I get to talk about this stuff in the world it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and going off of that, like these are two stories. I mean, you and Cynthia and I all grew up in different areas of the country. All had access to really different conversations around sex and sex ed and religion. And like, no matter where you come from or what kind of upbringing you are brought up with, like there is so much shame and mystery around sex in our bodies. Like it's not just like you know, growing up in an extreme religious environment, you don't get access to that. It's like you could grow up in the most liberal neighborhood with sex ed in your school and still there's like just such little conversation about it. So that was like really, you know we've learned so much more about that since starting the business, but that's why community and sex education is like the at the center of our brand.

Speaker 1:

You know 33 states, I think it is don't require sex ed to be medically accurate. Um, and like when you were saying you didn't know about like uh, you know the vulva and the vagina and all the different parts. Like that's so, so common. So it is just like a really, yeah, I think by working in this field, we have so much more access to conversations around this. And, like Cynthia was saying, like now, I mean even still, like I'm in my 30s as well, like I get friends texting me every time they go to the gynecologist with a question, or like you know, if they asking the side effects of plan b or something like that, and like I'm not, you know, a doctor.

Speaker 1:

But that's why we create these like medically verified resources.

Speaker 2:

And also like why we share so many personal stories and love hearing other people's personal stories because I think that's so connecting, and so you know, a lot of what we do is sharing, like Jamie said, medically accurate, verified information honestly, and also legally accurate, verified information, which now is super critical as we're understanding and taking control of our bodies but also sharing people's stories and sharing our own stories, because I think that is what can make people feel safe and connected and like able to have conversations like this. Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 3:

Beautiful. You said okay, jamie, you're in your thirties, cynthia. I have to ask what are? How old are you? Um, yes, in your 30s, cynthia. I have to ask what are? How old are you?

Speaker 2:

um?

Speaker 3:

yes, no, just kidding, I'm 32 for some reason I felt like I was so much older than you guys and it makes me wonder, I don't know. Just it's so hard to guess ages these days, like I don't know if you've noticed, but especially talking about sex and whatnot and probably being exposed to a lot of younger women, like young women, and anyway they just skip over the ugly phase entirely now and turn into full-grown women, and so I'm just sometimes I think I'm talking like a grown-ass woman and she's like oh, 12. I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

100% I love those TikToks that are like me and my friends in middle school and it's like, yeah, like doing coordinated dances to like you know. And then it's like versus middle schoolers today and they look like they're like 25 supermodels.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was covered in pimples with like crazy socks and looking like pippy long stockings and like just yeah, recording songs and then spending five hours writing lyrics and then we come up with dances. No, there was nothing about us, that was.

Speaker 1:

We had a lot more free time without like having the internet in our pocket.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, our imaginations Less pressure, you know yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my God. Yeah, the pressure was different, though it was like a different kind of pressure because I remember I thought about that and I've thought about this a lot, because I get so pissed with my kids that they feel they need like the devices in front of them all the time. So I'm very, I'm very like I want to get back to nature. The whole reason I'm building a company is I can make a shit ton of money doing what I love buy a bunch of land, wake up with chickens like I want to be able to have all this money so I can unplug, but still, like, change the world, and so my kids are kind of it's. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

That's probably the southern in me, I don't know. But um, well, I just I'm surrounded well, not right now, but like there's a lot of cows and I'm just, I guess, used to the farmland, but I've never got to own any Shit. Where was I? Oh, the kids, though. So, like I want to get back to the basics. My husband is very like if they're getting, we're just different in that way. I'm more so like, oh, let's get a coloring book or let's go outside and I don't know, go and look in the grass and see if we can find a new ecosystem type thing, and he's like, oh, but here's the phone. So it's very I have these mixed feelings. But I thought about it and I was like, well, like I get so angry at my kids and, like you know, we say silly stuff, like we didn't come home until it was getting dark outside. That's when we know it was time to come home, stuff like that. Then I think about the pressure. What was our pressure? And I remember do you remember? Like tabloids.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And the magazines, and so it was like a different kind of pressure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I think like it all is just adapting. Like I remember begging for more time in front of the TV and like my parents being resistant to that, but now it's like when kids have iPads, it's just a's just a different. Like at least we didn't have control over what we were watching and there were commercials and we all had to watch the same thing. Now it's like, you know, just endless content, um and control.

Speaker 1:

But I mean it will it will translate, it'll be interesting. I don't know how old your kids are and Cynthia and I don't have kids but, um, like I'm just so fascinated by like middle school aged and high school aged teenagers, like in this environment as it relates to sex, ed, and like healthy conversations about sex and access to porn, like I just think it's so uncharted waters.

Speaker 3:

Yes, okay. So okay, you know how I said in the beginning, we're just going to let this play.

Speaker 2:

We're just going to wing it.

Speaker 3:

That's what we need to talk about, because I'm so. So my daughter's turning 12. She's got her period, she is. So she's in middle school, sixth grade. I took her out of school on Monday because of her mental health, because she's getting picked on. She's hit puberty very early. She looks like she's one. She's taller than me. This girl's got more curves than like this. She's decked out like a woman, okay, and and then her, her dad passed in 2020 over the pandemic and like so it's all these things. Her mental health is like the utmost important importance to me right now. Right, so took her out of school now. So I took her out of school Now, before I took her out of school, we had had some like mishaps where something as simple as like fucking Roblox turned into.

Speaker 3:

Let's just say it ended with me taking a hammer to her phone because I was so angry. It wasn't my finest moment, but it made me realize how accessible this stuff is. So she's not one that, like, sits and looks at porn. I know she's gotten curious and she asks me and she asks about her body, and she knows that I will. We have that kind of relationship, but what got me was that kids are even like on Roblox, having virtual sex, bumping blocks and stuff. I'm like what? I'm like, my little, my little girl's doing stuff like this, has no idea what she's actually saying, what it means, none of that. And then I'm just glad that we found it so I could like have a conversation with her around sex and how it's actually sacred and important and it's empowering.

Speaker 3:

But like you don't give it to everybody. You know what I mean. But like it goes back to that whole social media thing, because she compares, so she has no access to social media. She cannot watch YouTube shorts, none of that. The only thing she can have are like creative outlets, so like, and even CapCut I'm kind of weird about, because there's templates and so she gets to see what other women look like and how beautiful they are. And but like, what is your stance on that? The whole social media. And like you were talking about porn. I know here in Mississippi I mean I'm not gonna lie, I like look a little porn. Okay, I found out real quick that is not allowed in Mississippi right now unless you're over the age of 18 and willing to put some information in. So I found a re, uh, a workaround, but like yeah, yeah, oh I didn know that I just went to a different website.

Speaker 3:

I don't want there to be any shame around that and I'm super up with my kids that like okay, yeah, you're gonna be super curious, do that kind of stuff in your bedroom. But like, what's your, what's your take on the whole social media thing? Because it's got it's got me as a parent mind fucked and I'm like what are they? What are I don't know? It's kind of scary and there's like the whole perversion aspect of it too and how unsafe it is the information the people out there preying on the children, like it's a whole thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's so scary. I mean, first of all, we don't have kids and so like I feel like that's so important to know, because it's easier in some ways, I think, for us to think about it or talk about it, because there's not that weight of actually having our own children right now. Like that's intense. I think that's like everything, like there's an immense power which can be used for good or for evil. But when young people are looking for information on their health, they literally start on TikTok, like we probably Google, and end up on WebMD. But young people go to TikTok or YouTube first without fail. That can be really empowering because there is some amazing content. Like we make a ton of really great content. That is like better designed for a young person's ears or better designed around a woman's body than a lot of what we'll see. You know, if you Google, if you look at the Google results of something or like is less fear mongering than a web MD.

Speaker 2:

But there's also a ton of information and changing like policies from Facebook meta that it's going to make this way way, way more dangerous, because they're getting rid of content moderation and they're getting rid of fact checking. So it's got. There's going to be more and more misinformation. I mean, I think that one of the most important things that we have to teach young people is how to understand tell like truth from fiction, how to understand what is real and what is not, how to check information and do your own research to validate things. Because we can't control social media, I mean, we'll see what happens with TikTok. Maybe that'll go away, but everyone is flocking to that new app that, jamie, you were playing on the other day, like we have no way of actually controlling it. So we have to arm ourselves to handle it as best as we can and arm the generation.

Speaker 1:

And I think you and again, like we don't have children and that's what scares me most about having children is like what happens when they're teenagers and they have all this access to stuff that, like I didn't have access to. But I think you had the answer, jacqueline, when you were saying, like I, I told my, my daughter knows that she can come to me and she knows, to talk about things relating to her body and sex, and like just having those conversations seems like the most important thing, you know, like knowing that there's a safe, trusted adult that they can come to and be open with. Because I feel like what is the most hindering and like developmentally scary to me is like all of the shame and secrets around sex, like and and our bodies and and health.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, the secrets are what really scares me and like, if you think about your story, like you did talk to somebody but they handled it terribly. And, jame, I know you like had kind of open open conversations as a kid. I remember like I told my mom the first time I had my I know you like had kind of open conversations as a kid. I remember like I told my mom the first time I had my first kiss and she like had my cool aunt pull me aside at a family party to like give me a talk and like that was humiliating not nearly as bad as your experience but like I never talked to my mom honestly about anything related to like boys or sex. Really, from there, that was so embarrassing. So yeah, having safe space.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I didn't talk to my mom about that stuff Like I I knew I guess I could have, but I never did. Like when I got my first boyfriend she asked me if I needed to be on birth control and I was like no and she was like okay, like that was kind of it, like that was kind of it, but I just think hopefully, with this generation and having millennial parents, millennials turning into parents, gen Z turning into parents, there will be much more of a like vocabulary around this, these topics and, and hopefully, some regulations and like guidelines.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if you run into that at all, but it's all very confusing, like from a parent's perspective. But it's interesting to hear your perspective because I feel like with you not having kids, you're not as on guard, so you probably see a lot more than I do. You know like, and in your industry you're probably exposed to more content like that. So when you say that people are going to TikTok, that young people are going to TikTok looking for answers when it comes to sexual health, vaginal health, all those things like self-expression, you know all those, what are like, what are some of the things that they're searching for? And is it coming in the form of just short form content? Is it you're talking about? Just like anybody and everybody? So, like I'm a business coach, it's not regulated in the States to be a coach at all, right, so I guess that's what makes it so scary and we don't know if it's factual. But what are some of the things that you're noticing people are searching for Right now?

Speaker 2:

there's a ton of people asking questions around how can I control my reproductive health? So like, okay, new administration, a lot of scary regulation. I mean you live in Mississippi, you know a lot of lack of access to critical healthcare, like abortion, so we see people all the time searching like what is plan B, how do I prevent pregnancy, like birth control right, like putting in those sorts of things, and you could end up with a great doctor giving you information. You could end up on Winx's page where we try to have a big sister vibe when it comes to those resources. You could also end up in a lot of really scary places too. Maybe don't directly, you know, give sermons on a sunday about shame around sex, but could end. You could end you up, could one could take you there.

Speaker 1:

We go to the right place I think also like because people are searching on tiktok and youtube and because those are like for-profit media companies that sell products, like you know, gen Z, 85% of Gen Z. I think it is like searches for their answers to their questions on TikTok and therefore like learns about new products I get so many TikTok ads for like a gummy that is supposed to make your vagina smell like pineapple. What the fuck? Straight up, like it's a pineapple gummy. And it's like all these girls being like my boyfriend can't get enough of my vagina. He says it tastes like pineapple and I'm like, oh my god, and I click into the like TikTok shop of that page. There are thousands of reviews, thousands.

Speaker 1:

So it's like you know, think of the percentage of people that actually reviews like so many girls, young girls, are buying this product and it's teaching them to be embarrassed or ashamed of how their vagina smells when realistically, like your body shouldn't smell like a pineapple. You know that actually. Like you know, by using scented products or stuff like that, there are adverse negative effects. So that's really scary to me and it's really important to us as a company. Like we do not use language like that anywhere. Like we don't call the vagina, anything but a vagina. You know we don't do sense, we don't do any like shameful language. I don't know. It's just it's scary out there. Yeah, like you were saying, it's unregulated and anyone can make a product for anything.

Speaker 3:

So you just said something and you said we don't call it anything other than a vagina. What is your? I just have to ask, because I literally just said pineapple before I knew you were okay. Okay, I don't want to embarrass myself and say it again, but like that seems seems to be a, and it's always kind of nerved me, but like I remember as a coach a few years back like the p-word was such a empowering word like pussy that like the whole feminine flow and like run your business from the feminine, like from your that, so that to like I don't know, I don't know what that's about, but what are your thoughts on that you talking about?

Speaker 3:

we don't say anything other like what it is.

Speaker 1:

I mean for us, because we're a health product and and these are, like you know, fda regulated um pharmaceutical. Some of our products are pharmaceuticals like and all of our content is medically verified. Like we want to use anatomical language. But like, if you love, like you know, if you find it empowering and I remember the in the Women's March with the pussy hats and like all of that If that's empowering to you, by all means means. We just want it to be really clear that we are like a medically accurate hub yes beautiful.

Speaker 2:

I also like, personally, pussy vag. I feel like those all are not hiding away from what it is. I hate when people use like flower euphemisms like flower or like peach, I don't know, like what.

Speaker 3:

I'm not her peach y'all did you notice how I was having a hard time even saying that word?

Speaker 1:

yeah, no it's. I mean, it's like so ingrained in us to just be like around it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay. So with the whole medical thing, tell me more about the company, like. What is the mission, what are like services, products, all those kinds of things. How are you, besides the information you're putting out there, and like the resources? What does Winx look like?

Speaker 1:

So our mission is to empower confident health decisions and that's been our mission since day one. So we like to say we're a sexual and vaginal health hub with the products and education you need to make confident health decisions. So we offer over-the-counter products like pregnancy tests, UTI tests, yeast infection tests, the morning after pill, and we also have our tests are connected to telehealth so you can like get your treatment for your UTI once you take the test and we right now you can purchase our products on our site. We're also in a number of retail locations. We're in grocery stores. We're hoping to launch into more retailers this year, so that is like the product side of what we do.

Speaker 3:

Now I was going to ask. So, going back to your story, cynthia, in the beginning you were talking about, you know, walking down the aisle and the whole experience and the like, because there is this instant stigma and shame around that. Oh, I've got to go get a. You know, for us it's like I'm not married and premarital sex and all the shame of how we're supposed to do it. Like this test we're supposed to do it in. I'm curious, like, what makes Winx different, because you mentioned that you're in stores too. So do you guys do the whole telehealth thing? Are they able to get what they need sent through the mail or?

Speaker 2:

tell me about that. There's a million answers to that. And that starts with every moment around the brand, right? Um, we do. Yeah, we are in retail. I mean, we started mostly online because of you know our experiences. But the truth is like women still want to buy these products, largely in store today, and we want to be where they are. So that's why we do that. But you'll even notice if you put our package next to, let's say, azo, which is the big UTI brand, our products. Again, they don't have any fluff around them.

Speaker 2:

We tell you exactly what it is, the goal being that you get in that aisle and you get out. You go there, you know exactly what you need, you can find it quickly. It's not confusing. We kind of remove that in that experience to help you move through it confidently. And then the telehealth piece is really cool too. So Jamie mentioned all of our tests. You're actually able to take a picture of them. We tell you what it is so like yes, you have a UTI. No, it's not BV, whatever that might look like and then can connect you to a doctor to get prescription treatment. That part all happens online, so you don't actually have to go to urgent care, your primary care doctor. I have used it before. I love it. Yeah, we were, jamie and I were at meetings in Chicago and I had my first ever yeast infection and I used our product. It was awesome, um and um, yeah. So, and then you can pick it up, mostly in a local pharmacy, although there are some opportunities for other things cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this sounds so cool because I. So what I'm gathering is like you're're the reason, first off, they find you the information, the education and there's no fluff Then. So what I'm gathering is is, because it's such a like sensitive process I mean the yeast infection, the you know UTIs, like all of it's super uncomfortable, right, and then having to like I don't want to walk up to a man especially and be like, so you know, is this what I need? So you're telling me that like it's kind of you're educating people and then they, they know exactly, like they don't have to go and talk to anybody, it's going to be easy to find and, okay, we give them control over their health.

Speaker 2:

That's what we want to do. We give them control over their health. That's what we want to do.

Speaker 3:

That's beautiful. I love this. I love this. Didn't know that people were searching for information on TikTok about stuff like this, but that is super, yeah, interesting, interesting in general. So, jamie, what you got for me. You got any words of wisdom? Any final thoughts?

Speaker 1:

what you got for me? You got any words of wisdom, any final thoughts? Um, just that. We are like constantly putting out new information about vaginal and reproductive health and sexual health, and especially this year, the year of 2025. We want to be like a safe space for women and girls and anyone who's interested to like learn about their bodies and also learn how, like laws and regulations might be affecting them. So, yeah, want to just be that space and know that we're here and if people do need the products, we have those for them too. But, like, we offer a lot more than just our products yeah, and what would you say?

Speaker 3:

like the price, the price range of your products are?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we are like lower than kind of your like top tier brands that you see in the in cvs and and walgreens. Um so somewhere between like there and the like conventional stuff that you see so like less than plan b, for example. You're always going to be more affordable than a plan b okay, and accessibility is like a big part of our mission as well.

Speaker 3:

We want to make sure we're making the best possible quality product for the best possible price yeah, okay, and then are you able to tell us, like some of the retailers, that you are currently um?

Speaker 2:

your products are available in yeah, so, um, we're in some regional grocery stores right now giant. We have another one launching in a couple months, but I can't say the name yet. But I'll just say, if you're in new england, keep your eyes out. Um, we also sell on gopuff on DoorDash, on FSA Store, like a bunch of online places and more news to come.

Speaker 3:

Super fucking cool ladies. Okay, I just have to ask so, when you guys were coworkers and chilling in 2019 and coming up with all these ideas, like, did you ever dream of it getting this big? Have y'all had a few moments where you're like look at each other and you're like, holy fucking shit, what like this is happening?

Speaker 2:

yes, um, I like it's a quick answer. Yes, we have those moments all the time. Yeah, yeah we did have one this morning.

Speaker 1:

But I think when we were starting it like I honestly like didn't even think far out enough to imagine the size it would be. Like we were just so excited by the idea and we moved so quickly. I mean, now it's six years. It doesn't sound that quick, but at the time it was very like we were just one foot in front of the other the whole way through. So I think we did not even think about what it might look like in 2025.

Speaker 3:

I love that, though, and there's a lesson in that, like in general, you know, people are trying so hard to like rush through life and get to that goalpost and then move the goalpost, but it's like that right there, six years zip by. I had a moment like this in one of my last interviews, and she was like was Thanksgiving a week before Thanksgiving, you know, in 2019, when I got let go from my marketing position, she's like oh my god, happy five years. I was like what?

Speaker 2:

and it does, it gets by it's like what.

Speaker 3:

So oh yeah, I'm excited for y'all, super excited. I can't wait to see. If six years went by, like what was 10 gonna? Oh shit, especially when y'all become mamas. Do y'all plan on having babies? Personal question, but I'm curious.

Speaker 2:

I definitely want kids. I love kids. I'm single right now, so you know we'll see, but that's the plan.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, take your time. They're a lot of work. But some of us I just ask because some people just like you just know, and but some of us I just ask because some people just like you just know, and some people just know they don't want kids, and I'm like, yeah, I respect that tremendously.

Speaker 1:

it sounds like a kind of nice life, um and I don't know, I think so eventually, but I do not feel ready.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now you said you're how old, like 30, what?

Speaker 1:

31, 30, oh yeah like maybe it's like 10 years yeah, why not?

Speaker 3:

why not? They say, have like I don't know, it's a down, it's a southern thing. I think it's their way of getting you to stay with one man. But they say, have them when you're young, and now that I'm older, I'm just like 40 sounds like a good age to start because, like that's when you hopefully have your shit together and, yeah, more patience in my opinion. But well, y'all, it has been super cool talking to both of you. I never would have guessed that either of you were in your 30s thank you at all of my day.

Speaker 2:

What'd you say? It's a highlight of my day.

Speaker 3:

Isn't that a good feeling, though, like I don't know, I still I get like carded it's really funny Like for a knife hole and shit, and I'm like ask me again, please, but oh, I'm sorry I got sidetracked. Tell everybody where to find you as far as like website, instagram, social media. We know a little bit about the stores and we know to check out all your things to stay updated, because you got updates coming up.

Speaker 1:

Our website is winxhealthcom, that's W-I-N-X health, and our Instagram handle is the same at Winx Health. Tiktok is the same, but that might not be here when this episode launches TBD, but yeah, we will. You can find everything you need to know about us on our website.

Speaker 3:

Cool. I have one more question and it's going to be silly and it may come left field, but I don't know if y'all saw my stories this morning yet, but I tagged you and the whole for whatever reason. When I started reading the notes about like your company and whatnot, I had one main question and that's is the G-spot real?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Very much so.

Speaker 3:

That's all I need to know, Because I just you know, some of us think it's a myth in our minds.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's actually the other side of the clitoris, so, like the clitoris like, if you look at a photo of it, it's kind of like that.

Speaker 3:

Trying to think in myself how.

Speaker 1:

And the G spot is like the roots of it, but like from the other side she said roots, writing that down. I mean I don't know if root is the anatomically correct term.

Speaker 3:

I know it may not be, but my brain will remember that.

Speaker 1:

So I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, she said I'm pretty sure I'll go fact check.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can fact check me on that. As soon as I said it, I was like wait, should I?

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure, yeah, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 3:

I just needed a simple yes or no from somebody that that's your real okay, well, I'm gonna go find it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I googled it, jame. It says it's part of the clitoral network. Is the?

Speaker 1:

yeah, no, it's like it's like basically reaching another, putting pressure on another side of your clitoris. Yeah, interesting, I got, my hand is doing this I was doing this, whatever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's kind of like what it's like. That's how my mind perceives it being in there and like maybe that'll help me now.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, then go do some research. All right, y'all have been so wonderful. Thank you for making sex not weird. You know, I think that's a big thing, that a lot of us and, like I, was saying, the dirty thirties. It took me to my thirties to get comfortable with all that, and so I think that what you ladies are doing is amazing. Thank you.

Speaker 3:

Providing that platform and that resource you ladies are doing is amazing. Thank you, providing that platform and that resource where they are already, where the young people are, because there are so many people that don't have those kinds of relationships with their parents or or just don't have maybe don't have family at all, and it's like, where do you go? And it does seem like and I'm learning this too like to meet, meet your people where they are, and I never would have thought about TikTok being somewhere that people even search for that. So keep it up, ladies. I can't wait to see where, like, the next six years take you, and I hope that when you have something big, that you think of me and you let me know, because I would love to like, do a where are you going to be in a in a few years type episode, but this is so cool.

Speaker 2:

And we'll be ready for it. You know this was so fun, thank you Good, and y'all aren't mad at me for saying pussy.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm over here secretly. I'm over here. This is the church girl I'm like is that okay to say that?

Speaker 2:

I have no issue If you said neck regions or down there. I'd be like girl stop. But pussy is totally fine.

Speaker 1:

There is also like nothing off limits.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I have to remind myself this is my fucking show. Why didn't you want to say it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you tell us Well we.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you tell us what we can and can't say Okay, last thing, have you heard it called downstairs mix-up?

Speaker 1:

Ugh no, I've never heard that before.

Speaker 3:

It's bad, it's so bad Like poor Elise is like please get off now.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, downstairs mix-up. That's deeply upsetting. Oh, she's trying to talk with you. Oh, we still can't hear you at least, or at least.

Speaker 3:

Well, oh my god, but it was from. It's from something called um old greg. If you look that up on youtube, that'll be a better reference, um, and it may make you laugh, but it's, it's a terrible, terrible reference. So, anyway, well, okay, it's from like when youtube was coming to a thing and it's like when people were posting the most ridiculous shit. Yeah, that was one of those things. So, anyway, enjoy.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's so great to meet you. Yeah, so great to meet you yeah, y'all too, and that's okay.

Speaker 3:

At least we'll catch up sometime, all right, thank you so much. Yeah, you too, of course. Bye, bye.

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